The fusion dance is shortened for high power levels too. Assuming that Vegito and Buuhan were equals for simpicities sake, Vegito would be 50x stronger than Buuhan as a SSJ. In that case, a fusion of Gohan and Goku would not be enough to defeat Buutenks since Gohan>>>>>Base Goku, even though Goku claimed a fusion between them two would be enough. Well acctually, all other things being equal Vegetto would still be 'stronger' because he doesn't have to worry about timing out, messing up the fusion, etc. Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. Old kai said "what's more is that since they're rivals they're even stronger". Explaining why Goku was considering Tien/Dende/ Hercule as the other fusee. Not even SSJ4 Gogeta can compete because then you would have to factor GT Vegito, and both Goku And Vegeta are about 1 quadrillion in base form. So really, the battle would be close (unless Goku or Vegeta fail and become Veku), but in the end, Gogeta would come out on top, Vegito is stronger because for the fusion dance you had to be the same exact or atleast extremly close to the same power level demonstrated when Goten and Trunks were fusing. If he intended to say it was stronger, he would'v said it, but he didn't. With that being said, Goku was confident that a FUSION DANCE (not* Potara) would be sufficient enough to defeat Buutenks. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 00:28, April 2, 2014 (UTC), I agree that Ultimate Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, but nowhere is it stated that he is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Only problem is SS4 Vegito can toy around with Gogeta til fusion wears off and beat the stuffing out of Goku and Vegeta also. Help Gogeta reach the top! Now, even though they fused in base form, it would fuse their max powers. SSJ Gotenks is already stronger than SSJ3 Goku, how much stronger do you think U.Gohan is? I have Ultimate Gohan on par with SSJ3 Goku, I merely said he could lower his power level to a SSJ3 to match Goku, since you believe Gohan to be so much more powerful. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 22:11, November 8, 2013 (UTC). For Vegito it depends, if Goku and Vegito are equal in power then Gogeta = Vegito but If Goku>/Gogeta. So there you go. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. If Vegeta gains the SSJ3 ability, then they would be equals. ]], i think gogeta is stronger because 1. he wouldn't mess around he would go straight for the kill and also i would like to point out that 30 MINUTES IS PRETTY LONG IN THE DBZ UNIVERSE I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE DID EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT GOKU VS FRIEZA WHEN FRIEZA SAID THAT NAMEK WOULD BLOW UP IN 5 MINUTES AND THAT FIGHT LASTED LIKE 10 THROUGH 15 EPISODES AND VEGITO AND GOGETA CAN'T GO SUPER SAIYAN 4 DBGT WAS MADE JUST FOR GETTING MORE MONEY IT WAS NOT ACTUALLY IN THE MANGA SO DON'T SAY VEGITO COULD WIN JUST BECAUSE OF TIME LIMIT OF GOGETA 2. gogeta doesn't even flinch remember when he got punched by janemba he didn't even move he just stood there not even phased while vegito could take damage remember janemba is stronger then goku super saiyan 3 and vegeta they both got owned fast however with super buu gohan absorbed they were still good they didn't get out cold and weren't that beaten up as when they were fighting janemba so it kinda says janemba is stronger then super buu with gohan absorbed also i want to point out that elder kai said that the fusion type was only stronger then the fusion dance just because it didn't have a time limit and it was perminant but you forgot 30 minutes is a very long time in the dbz universe so yeah and gogeta starts as a super saiyan (or super saiyan 2 cause it looks like he is in that form) while vegito doesn't he starts in his normal form so through that period time gogeta has that adantage and that's why i think gogeta is stronger. And if we can't factor GT into this, then Super Saiyan is they highest Gogeta can go. If Vegeta had the ability to become a SSJ3, then Vegito and Gogeta would be the exact same, but Gogeta is required for them to have equal power levels. I also regard rival boost as the greatest power boost in a fusion. Base Goku 10xBase Vegeta10=Base Vegito 100.---SSJ Goku is 500, so it must multiply the max power level. So, his whole idea is based off his minute of fame. With the fusion retcons, Vegito is no longer of any use. 1) time-u we know that gogeta only has 30 mins of fusion that will give vegito the advantage but we have also seen vegito time out quickly but it was due to overpowering so we will give vegito … Wrong. He says that Potara is better. Vegito wasn't just playing with buu so he could free them it was cause it was fun too. Considering Gogeta appeared in a movie, there wasn't a whole lot of time to explain everything about the Fusion Dance, so who are we to say? Not even Super Vegetto. So we will say Goku and Vegeta are equal with a power level of 10 at their base. Vegito or Gogeta - Who is stronger??? All you have to do is snap on earings. Gogeta is seeking to strengthen his power, and Whis has the perfect training partner! Or the one where it states Goten is equal to Gohan? like I said, nothing in the manga suggest Potara>Fusion Dance or vice-versa in terms of strength. So; So Base Vegito would be (SSJ3 Goku 4000 + SSJ2 Vegeta 1000)2= Base Vegito 10,000, So Base Gogeta would be (SSJ2 Goku 1000 + SSJ2 Vegeta 1000)2= Base Gogeta 4,000. Let's use this funny little thing called "facts" and "math" to solve this. And what you said about Potara being better is BS Sandubadear 15:16, November 4, 2013 (UTC), Yeah goku and vegeta were both equal when fusing to make gogeta and vegito. i think gogeta is stronger but vegito could outlast him and win the fight overall if he could last that long. Like they are even while SSJ2. Where is your source for this? Even if one fusion lets you multiply your power by 50x then goku doing that at full power and Vegeta doing it at full power is stronger then Goku and Vegeta doing it at Vegeta's full power. I prefer Gogeta because I like his animations better, but I think Vegito is the better unit (subjectively) and I think he fits better on the teams he can be run on( PLus Vegito Blue has more teams and can link extremely well with the PHY VB after transforming. In addition, pathetically enough the East Kaioshin and his attendant Kibito merged together without knowing a thing about Potara fusion." You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Fusioin Dance takes equal power level. The merged person will only split up when touched by the air inside Majin Buu's body. SSJ4 Goku GT would crush Super Vegito. The earrings do not add any power and rival boost might goes away when they are fused and if it doesn't that power would be added to both fusions. Also even if Gogeta can go ssj4 Vegito has a post ssjg Goku. Gogeta, as a SSJ, is powerful enough to completely outclass Super Janemba, who had the power to distort the entire Universe, and easily defeated SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, and Pikkon. Vegeto wins. And personal opinions don't count. Actually the portara earrings doesn't add any power to the fusion the only reason why elder kai said it was a better way of fusion is because it is easier way of fusing and there is no way to mess up on it and become a weak fat fusion verison and because there is not time limit it. He's had two wins and one loss. The problem arises when Gohan>>>>SSJ3 Goku, so that wouldn't effect the fusion at all and they still wouldn't be strong enough to defeat Buutenks unless the powering down doesn't affect the fusion output. However, why wouldn't the fusion dance do that? They literally say "stronger". This is all we know: That's all we really know based off the anime, where Vegito appeared, and "Fusion Reborn," where Gogeta appeared. While Vegito can theoretically exist twice as long as his Metamoran counterpart, he simply can't use his vast abilities unchecked without fear of the fusion coming to an abrupt, untimely end. To use them, the two people who will merge simply have to each take one of the two earrings and put in on their left or right ear, respectively. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKH-1Qbc-2Y. See more ideas about gogeta vs vegito, dbz drawings, dragon ball super art. Old Kai said the earrings were sacred so Im not suprised. In the end Vegito might just win this battle by a small margin because potara fusion can't even be 10x stronger than the normal fusion dance. Potara is definitely not 1000x stronger than fusion dance lol. Anyway, Vegito might have an upper hand becuase Gogeta has a time limit, but considering how fast the two can move at this point, I doubt the conclusion of this fight would come down to Gogeta defusing. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 00:58, March 30, 2014 (UTC), The reason I say, is since their power levels have to be equal. Then that's the problem we have and it comes down to that. Anyway, Gogeta > or = Vegito, if you count personallity or not it could change. As SSJ's, they are uncontested. If Goku has achieved SSJ3 and Vegeta has unlocked SSJ2, the Gogeta could easily get SSJ2 and then to SSJ3. The answer is Vegito. The problem here was time, not power level, meaning if Goku and U.Gohan did fuse, regardless of their power difference, then it would be enough for Buutenks. So we know that the power levels of the users have to be equal for the Fusion Dance. In the long run, it depends on what teams you can run him on and what you prefer. Just can't imagine the power level of something like SSGSS3 Vegito or some crazy shit like that. Potara doesn't bring a perfect fusion. Vegetto's energy blade would end Gogeta. There is NOTHING in the manga or anime that suggest Vegetto>Gogeta. Although I believe Gogeta in base form to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku, my numbers have them as equal. First of all Lets figure out both of their base power levels First is Gogeta's In V-jump his super saiyan power level is stated to be 2,500,000,000. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 19:09, March 17, 2014 (UTC), Daizenshuu 7 wrote: Finally, Vegito's base power is said to be perhaps even more powerful than that of a SSJ4. Make sense?Ultimatessj1 (talk) 22:10, April 1, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1. With "potara fusion," unequally matched cha… Some like to claim that Vegito is stronger than Gogeta because Old Kai said potara was a better way to fuse, and gave them a "rival boost." They don't have to be equal. A would be SSJ4 Goku DBZ would smash Vegito or Gogeta, but once they ascended just one time. Possibly, but that would be an assumption, and assumptions don't beat out statements. Just a small bonus. I say this because let's do the 2 ways of calculating fusion that people do. P.S. But lke I said "Just an Idea".Ultimatessj1 (talk) 07:52, April 3, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1, u cant compare these 2 because of the time limit. POTARA IS MAX POWER LEVELS. Nothing in the manga or anime indicate that Vegetto is stronger. And although we haven't seen Vegito go above SSJ, doesn't mean he can't. So all in all Buu Saga Super Vegito is about 2.5x stronger than Movie 12 Super Gogeta.Ultimatessj1 (talk) 22:40, March 29, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1, You're basically saying that Gogeta would only get Goku's SSJ2 max power and not his SSJ3 which wouldn't make sense. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 17:51, March 19, 2014 (UTC). All team HP depleted Time expires HP of all allies in area depleted Plot Edit. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 18:28, February 24, 2014 (UTC), i think gogeta. Gogeta would then refuse and leave himself wide open to getting stabbed with Spirit Sword, causing Gogeta to have to use his legendary super saiyan form he got wehn he absorped Broly's S-Cells. if they somehow came to blows it is very likely vegetto would be able to last long enough for gogeta to defuse. So for Gogeta Goku has to lower his power immensly to match Vegeta's However for the earring Fusion they can both be at full power. Evolve 20 (talk) 22:13, November 5, 2013 (UTC). Vegito is also about 250x stronger than SSJ Gogeta. Firstly, I don’t really know much about Lucifer Morningstar from his TV series, so I will be basing my knowledge off of him from the comic series. SSJ4 Goku is much stronger than Super Vegetto and Super Gogeta as stated by both Old Kai and Goku himself. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 15:50, March 18, 2014 (UTC), Old kai said the "effect is greater", not "it's better"--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 05:48, March 19, 2014 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96, That's in the Japanese anime, actually. Vegito is at a lower power level than Gogeta, but he would have a chance agianst Gogeta. People say Gogeta can win because he got Super Sayin 4. AT did say that Gohan was the strongest unfused character, but that is disproven by Whiss. So although he seems weaker, it's only because Vegeta doesn't have SSJ3.However, Vegito is still superior. Buuhan, Buutenks, and Super Janemba are all around the same power with Buuhan being the strongest by a small margain. Even Gohan is above that, I mean, come on. You say Goku , the manga, and practically everyone states that he is, but none of them do. SSJ Gogeta WRECKED Janemba, who is stronger than Buu. So, to say that SSJ3 Gotenks surpassed Super Buu is an assumption. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Vegito according to Elder Kai. Goten admitted that they were equal to Buu but not stronger. We rarely see people use their full power in dbz so we don't really know how much of his power he used against buu. Might as well use the video games where Gogeta states he is the Ultimate Fusion. Vegito vs. Zamasu The Broly movie showed that the fusion dance is not affected by power levels like it was with SSJ3 Gotenks in DBZ. I have evidence to support Gogeta can finish an opponent in a fight and Vegetto can not. By the way, the statement with Akira Toriyama about U.Gohan being the the strongest unfused character, or Vegetto being the strongest character was an internet rumour. Now, Vegito is mostly worse because it takes a lot of his personallity. Buutenks ran out of time on Gotenks Fusion, so he became Buuiccolo. All I'm saying is I had an idea, and since it is stated that Fusion Dance requires equal power levels, Vegito from the Buu saga would be stronger than Gogeta from the Fusion Reborn movie. Also, the fusion wouldn't be stronger than Gogeta/Vegetto since you forgot about the rival boost they get for fusing which Old Kai described as "definitely strongest." I stated there is not correct way for calculating either fusion technique, so they are my opinion, but it makes sense. U.Gohan is much stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Now don't get me wrong, I know Vegito can only go up to Super Saiyan as well, but when Vegito goes Super Saiyan, becoming Super Vegito. Piccolo says that according to Buu he was just warming up with Gotenks. Vegeto Vs Gogeta (equal power levels) Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. So they would have enough power to win. People say That Vegito messes around while Gogeta doesn't the Reason Vegito messed around with Buu is because he was so superior to him (in my opinion), First of all, Vegoito max SSJ decimated Super Buu Gohan Absorbed Hidden Power, which is the strongest villan mode EVER in the actual anime by about 100 trillion. Goku told Trunks he had to lower his power to match Goten's or the fusion dance wouldn't work. First goku's power level based on the kili reading of Babadi his power level in super saiyan … Gogeta just seemed like the more impressive fighter overall. I don't remember if Gogeta was even used in DBZ or it was just DBGT, but I know Vegito was used in the Buu Saga and was insanely powerful in comparison. The whole "powering down" theory has already been refuted. Pre DBS I would say Vegito but post DBS I say Gogeta. At equal levels I'm leaning towards Gogeta. This is one one of those fights I honestly have no idea who would win. U.Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, so according to everything in the manga, U.Gohan>>>SSJ3 Goku. So it was less effedtive in the long run, but still very effective. I know that Vegito wasn’t able to win, especially due to the time limit. The Fusion Dance requires that the users have the same power level, and that they perform a perfectly symmetrical dance to attain oneness. Old Kai stated it was "definitely strongest." He is not in the manga/anime. Since you say Base Gogeta is=> than SSJ3 Goku (to which I find absurd).SuperGogeta91 (talk) 21:29, March 31, 2014 (UTC), I agree a SSJ4 Goku DBZ would be much stronger than Ultimate Gohan. You guys are idiots. If you consider these facts alone you could think Gogeta is stronger than Vegito but, of course, you can think Goku and Vegeta got stronger since before the tournament of power … It is stated that their power levels have to be equal for the Fusion Dance. 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